🛂 Visa comparison
Greece vs Indonesia digital nomad visa
Two of the nomad visas Americans compare most, side by side: what each asks for, how long it lasts, where it leads, and what life costs in each country.
The short version
- Greece's income bar is lower: about $4,022 a month vs $5,000.
- Life is cheaper in Indonesia: from $787 a month all-in in Denpasar, vs $1,679 in Athens.
Side by side
| Measure | 🇬🇷 Greece | 🇮🇩 Indonesia |
|---|---|---|
| 🛂 Visa | Digital Nomad Visa | E33G Remote Worker KITAS |
| 💵 Income needed | €3,500/mo NET (after taxes, the overlooked trap) | $60,000/yr (official), sources conflict, some cite lower; verify at application |
| ≈ In US dollars | $4,022/mo | $5,000/mo |
| 💳 Fees | ~€75 | ~$150-400 all-in |
| ⏳ Length | 1 yr visa, 2-yr residence permit | 1 yr |
| 🔁 Renewal | Yes (permit renewable) | Yes |
| 🏠 Path to residency | Nomad visa years generally do not count toward PR, dead-end for citizenship | KITAS years can build toward KITAP (PR) on some routes |
| 🧾 Tax once resident | 🟡 Moderate · Worldwide income, top 44% | 🟡 Moderate · Local income only, top 35% |
| 🗓️ Visa-free visit first | 90 days | 30 days |
| 💰 Cheapest city, all-in | $1,679 · Athens | $787 · Denpasar |
General reference, not immigration or tax advice. Income figures in US dollars are converted at current rates from each visa's own requirement; confirm with the consulate before applying.